Yeah but the names are already on the foundation. It doesn't say that these boobheads would be added to that foundation. Idiots! Show me in the bible where it says that they would be ADDED! Mind you Mark Sanderson would make a lovely humpty dumpty who fell off the wall:)
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Notes in the margins of the July 15 2013 WT magazine. yours and mine.
by prologos inpart of my healthy and longstanding scepticism about wt claims /teachings stems from my habit to immediately scan the newly arrived mags for novelty.
at source.. while the meeting drones on, usually within minutes, "gems" are marked and shown in the margins "kindly" left for that purpose/ possibility.. this 7/15/2013 magazines is one of a kind, this marking will take longer, but here is a start:.
on page 25, paragraph 19, but 18 and 20 too, -- the extraordinary claim/possibility is suggested, that.
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DF'd ones--? about your JC
by gma-tired2 ini went back and i was reading butterflyleia past posts.
she mentioned one on the elders on her jc was df'd later.. this got me to thinking how many others had this experience.
my son was df'd 18 years ago.
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We'll let you know. Ours is coming soon.
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Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG
by mindnumbed insymposium: beware of apostates!.
satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .
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Thanks Mindnumbed and Designer Stubble. This was the information that we needed.
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Why elders' wives are such gossipers...
by Calebs Airplane ini have a theory as to why elders' wives gossip so much.
i believe a big part of it has to do with the conversation running dry (between themselves and their elder husbands) after so many years of marriage.
since they don't get to spend too much "quality time" together (because of the elder husband's hamster wheel schedule), when they do have some intimate time alone, the elder's wives will invaribly attempt to engage their husbands in any kind of interchange.
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One more thing to add is when the elders come to you and want to shepherd you, the minute you say you can't understand why some elders tell their wives everything then all of a sudden you see their faces go red while they shake their heads up and down but not one word. GUILTY!
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Why elders' wives are such gossipers...
by Calebs Airplane ini have a theory as to why elders' wives gossip so much.
i believe a big part of it has to do with the conversation running dry (between themselves and their elder husbands) after so many years of marriage.
since they don't get to spend too much "quality time" together (because of the elder husband's hamster wheel schedule), when they do have some intimate time alone, the elder's wives will invaribly attempt to engage their husbands in any kind of interchange.
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Blondie, you are soooooo right. When we came to our last hall, an elder informed us that the cobe had gone to our last hall to find out why we were in their hall even though we came with a good letter of recommendation (the elder that wrote it told us) as well as the backing of the co. The cobe got some dirt on us and brought it back to this body of elders and one of the elders sqealed to us. If you went out to lunch with that elder, him and his wife would tell us what was said at the elders meetings. It's really bad when an elders wife goes over to a disfellowshipped person and starts talking to them before any announcement is made that evening. And she did this infront of everyone at the hall. We had an elder in the old hall who"s wife did the time cards for her husband who was the service overseer. One day I was in a car group of sisters and they were asking the one elders wife what the local needs was going to be and she started to devulge and I said I don't want to know, thankyou. Just read my last post started and all of that shit was started from an elders wife gossip.
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Please explain why the elders are doing this to us
by label licker ingot a phone call today from a couple from our ex congregation.
he was visited again by two elders(one in training) again.
third shepherding call within two months.
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Brother of the Hawk I thank you and everyone here for your input. It's the waiting for their next move that is tearing my guts out. So we're trying to be a step ahead of them before the final crunch. Trying to pull a checkmate before they do it to us
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Please explain why the elders are doing this to us
by label licker ingot a phone call today from a couple from our ex congregation.
he was visited again by two elders(one in training) again.
third shepherding call within two months.
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Spoke to a brother from bethel tonight who knows us well and he told us to come in and talk to a brother at the service desk but first should see the co about it first. If the co can't do anything then he will set up a meeting with the brother here at bethel and that brother will investigate the matter. They know us well at bethel and know what we are all about. The elder there cannot believe the stunt these elders are pulling before the co visit. We never knew congregations could be soooo evil and we told that bethel elder that. He told us to stay put, pray and keep reading our bible. We will not go back but we want this harrassment to be put to an end. Troubled Mind that might be the magic bullet that ends all this therefore not giving them a chance to df us.Or will they still do it? I would love to send it to that one elder that is causeing us the grief but I guess it should be sent to the body instead so none of them come near us. I'm starting to see that there is a light at the end of this dark tunnel. Thanks!
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Why won't JWs have "civilized" debates with home owners?
by ilikecheese init seems kind of crazy to go to someone's house touting your religion as truth and then not even defend your own beliefs.
why do jws stop the chat if someone just tries to calmly reason/debate with them?
i'm not talking about crazy preachers who start slamming bibles and yelling about how they need jesus or something.
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We had a call where the mennonite guy brought a list of questions to the door and we went through our bible for each answer. We enjoyed it until we found out it was an elders return visit. The elder told us he only calls on him once a year because the guy has tons of questions. We couldn't figure that one out but then the elder told us there was no need to call on them for they are wicked. They just want to waste our time yet the elder had a bible study that had been studied with four different elders for a total of ten years. We ran into that study and till this day he believes in evolution.
We wondered if he's so wicked then why does the elder still hold on to this call. We don't try to figure it out. We're glad we're gone and out of this religion.
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Please explain why the elders are doing this to us
by label licker ingot a phone call today from a couple from our ex congregation.
he was visited again by two elders(one in training) again.
third shepherding call within two months.
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You guys don't know what your words have done for me(right now crying). We are right now posting no tresspassing signs around the property. If they enter it will be at their own risk. We spoke to the couple today and the elders told them that we did the same thing in the last hall knocking down the org. The sister told them to stop and didn't want to hear their gossip about us and then he starts reading her one scripture after another about gadding about. I asked how did they end up in the house and apparently when she answered the door she told them that she had said over the phone there was not going to be anymore shepherding calls and they said yeah we know what you said but now that we are here we would like to talk about your husband being seen talking to sister so and so. They were seen at a store together. If this sister didn't know me as well as she did it almost sounded like they were planting doubts in her to get her pissed off enough so she would spill the beans. At this point her husband wasn't home from work yet. Notice they made sure they said this without the husband there even though it was suppose to be about him. Just like when they brought us into it they should have come to see us but they were spreading slander to them. She asked why are you telling me this and they said we figure since you and your husband were close to us that they might know something. If we had such a bad reputation in the last hall then why did we come with a good letter and the co told the elders to use us so we were able to pioneer as well as work at bethel as day workers. They said that others from the congregation are coming forward saying that we spoke bad about the org(smell a setup coming) and that was only to get them to open up more. But it backfired. This is making me really really sick. More than anything we all want a good name for our reputation like the bible says there's nothing better than a good name but this is wicked wicked wicked. Tomorrow we will go and buy a tape recording device and we will see what happens next. Like I say, if they come onto the property and decide to piss us off then we will take it to the next step. They have no idea who they are dealing with and if this happens that we get df'd then you will read my story that will blow your minds. You'll also read a letter from our lawyer if they try anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will keep you posted
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Please explain why the elders are doing this to us
by label licker ingot a phone call today from a couple from our ex congregation.
he was visited again by two elders(one in training) again.
third shepherding call within two months.
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Since when do elders try to encourage others who are supposedly weak to come to the meetings by tearing other brothers and sisters down?